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C2C Training Hike #3 - Stinson to Mt. Tam (18mi/5400ft)

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When:  From Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:00 am to Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:00 pm (included)
Category:  户外活动 -- fairly strenuous hike
Group:  [NPhopper]
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RSVP:  Required  [?]
Cancel:  Must cancel ahead 24 hours
Cost:  $18
Phone:  650 814-1169
[Initial event info - posted 4/18/2008 12:00 pm]
Please check other updates in the first post.
NOTE: Do NOT RSVP if I dont know you, I will immediately cancel your RSVP. Please scroll down a bit and you'll see a list of questions you need to PM (private message) me with answers to. Thank you for your cooperation. No exceptions.

[Update - posted 4/21/2008 1:52 pm]
This event has been completed. Instead of the 22mi/4500' estimate, the actual hike was about 17-18 mi and 5000 ft in elevation gain. It was a rather strenuous hike, going over pretty rough trails and numerous (some 40+) junctions, including several unmarked trails. We summited the West and Middle peak, but did not go to the top of the East Peak.

Description:
Sorry for the late notice. In this training hike, we'll go from sea level (Stinson beach) all the way up to the peaks of Mt. Tam. Yeah, peaks - west/middle/east. Then go through Muir Woods a bit and then finally back to Stinson beach. Expect about 20 to 22 miles of hiking or so, over maybe 4000 to 4500 ft of total elevation gain.

Because both elevation and distance is smaller than what a real C2C training hike should be, I will most likely make it up by going fairly fast. This means up to 25% faster than the mystery hikes. Do not by any means assume that if you can do the mystery hikes that you can therefore handle this hike.

NOTE - this hike is for Sunday, not the usual Saturday. That's another reason I dont want to make it like 25+ miles. (But be prepared anyway for a mostly all-day hike).

Also, since this is pretty last minute notice, if you need to cancel past the 24 hr period (4/19 7am), please PM me and I'll cancel for you.

Thanks!
-Paul



Items to bring:
* Hiking boots mandatory; hiking poles if you have them
* Hat, sunblock, sunglasses.
* 2 to 3 liter of liquids - 4 to 6 small bottles, half sports drinks.
* Hiking pants, please no jeans!
* Light/med jacket
* Non-cotton shirts, including a short-sleeve
* Walkie-talkies if you have one (set code to 4-1)
* Headlamp in case we finish late
* Lunch, snacks.
* Money (for carpool and dinner)
* Eat a hearty breakfast! Do not come empty-stomached!
* A sense of adventure.


NOTE: All who have not hiked with me before, please PM me and provide the following information, I'll let you know if you can RSVP:
1) Have you hiked 20+ miles & 4000' elevation gain at a fairly fast pace (2.7 - 3.2 mph) before? If not, what have you done?
2) Have you joined nphopper hikes or hikes from other groups in b.a.d before?
3) Do you have proper hiking gear? I.e. hiking boots, non-cotton shirts, hat, backpack, hiking poles, camelback's (for liquids), etc.

In order to make sure everyone enjoys the hike, I do require that you are in fairly good physical condition, work out regularly, are responsible and punctual, have the right equipment, etc. Thanks for your understanding.

Prelim schedule:
* 7:00 am carpool A (Sportsbasement, Sunnyvale)
* 7:25 am carpool B (Marina Foods, Foster City)
* 9:00 am start hiking
* 1 pm lunch break
* 5 pm finish hike
* 7 pm return to carpool


Carpool location(s)

Carpool A (7:00 am sharp, arrive 5 minute early) - Sunnyvale - Sports Basement.
* Carpool A (Sunnyvale) - Sports basement. 1177 Kern Ave, Sunnyvale, CA 94085.
* Please park behind the store against the fence next to Lawrence. This means drive into the parking and go to the end and right turn to circle to the back of the store.

Carpool B (7:25 am sharp, please arrive 5 min early) - Marina Foods plaza, Foster City (in front of the Shengi bakery)
* (link to be posted later)


* To reduce pollution, carpool is mandatory!!
* Be punctual, be early! We don't wait past the stated times, and I do give out "No Show" marks. The stated times are for when we leave carpool locations, so get there a few minutes early.

References
* C2C - 2008: 23 mi / 11,000' elev gain.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:02 pm    Post subject: Updates Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul, Could I catch a ride at 19th Avenue ( corner of Sloat Blvd )? Could we start 1 hour earlier? Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ocean wrote:
Paul, Could I catch a ride at 19th Avenue ( corner of Sloat Blvd )? Could we start 1 hour earlier? Thanks.


1. If you want to go, meet at the Merced branch library at 7:45 am, just off 19th & Winston, across from Stonestown: 155 Winston Dr, San Francisco, CA 94132. It being Sunday, should be able to park.

2. No, I dont want to start so early, sorry.


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3. Since this is pretty last minute notice, if you need to cancel past the 24 hr period (4/19 7am), please PM me and I'll cancel for you.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul, see you 7:45 at 155 Winston Dr on Sunday 4/20. thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reminders Reply with quote

Reminder - it may be pretty windy tomorrow and in places of shade, it will feel pretty cold, so make sure to pack a fleece AND windbreaker, hat, and thin gloves just in case.

Also, no need to carry too much water as we can refill at the east peak about half way through the hike. 1.5 liter should be sufficient.

Lastly, be on time, bring lunch, and eat breakfast! See all tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:33 am    Post subject: Hike summary #1 Reply with quote

This turned out to be one hell of a hike! Congrats to everyone for enduring it. Photos to follow later, though it'll be a more limited set since my camera malfunctioned early into the hike. I did borrow one from a fellow hiker (thanks Royw) to take a few more.

1. Thanks everyone for being on-time! There were 8 hikers, 2 cars of 4 each. Pickup was done in Foster City and SF for one of the cars.

2. Hike started at the Matt Davis trailhead just behind the fire house in downtown Stinson Beach, at pretty much sea level. Starting time: 8:52 am.

Lunch was at the East Peak parking lot from 1:28pm to 1:52 pm.

Returned to trailhead at 5:36 pm (5 hikers) and 6:07 pm (3 hikers).

3. Distance and elevation. I had originally wanted to go about 22 miles and cover some 4500 ft in elevation. After doing some rough topo, I realized we would only go about 20 miles tops.

In the actual hike, we covered around 18 miles, even though I'm sure everyone felt it was closer to or more than 20 miles. It definitely wasn't 20 miles, though. There are several reasons it felt farther than it actually was:

* There were numerous junctions: we went through at least 40 of them. Each junction meant a bit of waiting and loss of momentum.
* Many of the trails were really rough with loose rocks, steep sections and thick obstructing bushes.
* we got slightly disoriented a few times, partly because some of the trails were not well-marked, or not marked at all.

Elevation-wise, my rough calculations shows a total elevation gain of about 5400 ft. Yes, over a mile!

Summary: 18 mi / 5400 ft for an average grade of 11.3% - this is an incredible average to keep up for 9 miles! (Compare to Mission peak which is 15% grade, but only over 2.8 mi)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:22 pm    Post subject: Trail map Reply with quote

Take a look at the spaghetti of trails that we contended with (click here to view a larger version):

We started at A and went through B, C, ... X, Y, Z, AA, AB, ... AH, AI, as marked in the yellow and green hilites.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:46 am    Post subject: Hike summary #2 - photos Reply with quote

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* Paul's camera (32)
* Roy's camera (133)

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